Comments on: Static Stretching in the Warm Up?? http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/ Conditioning. Nutrition. Science. Volleyball. Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:51:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Dave http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-3360 Dave Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:08:58 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-3360 Sorry Justin, I've been terribly slack with the blog. I'll put static stretches on the list of posts to do. Sorry Justin, I’ve been terribly slack with the blog. I’ll put static stretches on the list of posts to do.

]]> By: Justin http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-3241 Justin Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:43:39 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-3241 booo it doesn't even tell me any streches for static streches booo it doesn’t even tell me any streches for static streches

]]> By: Dave http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Dave Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:23:35 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-322 Dan, After training athletes can experience muscle soreness or DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness). This is due to microscopic damage to the muscle tissue. There is a bit of a myth that stretching after training will reduce this soreness. It may provide some temporary relief but does not really impact on muscle soreness. This may be why your S&C coach said not to worry about stretching post training. I would recommend stretching after training to restore muscles to their resting length. No post training stretching could lead to some chronically tight muscles. I would still include stretching post training, but keep in mind muscle damage is done and it wont really cure the subsequent soreness. Hope this helps. Dan,

After training athletes can experience muscle soreness or DOMS (delayed onset muscle soreness). This is due to microscopic damage to the muscle tissue. There is a bit of a myth that stretching after training will reduce this soreness. It may provide some temporary relief but does not really impact on muscle soreness. This may be why your S&C coach said not to worry about stretching post training.
I would recommend stretching after training to restore muscles to their resting length. No post training stretching could lead to some chronically tight muscles. I would still include stretching post training, but keep in mind muscle damage is done and it wont really cure the subsequent soreness.

Hope this helps.

]]> By: Dan http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-316 Dan Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:37:10 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-316 Thanks for that Dave. It would be great to get some links to some well known and well documented people in the field. I love the site by the way. If I can get links to articules then I think all coaches will feel more empowered. I will definitely share these. Dont worry, I love the active warm up at the start. What are your thoughts on not doing strectching at the end of a session using the reason that muscle tissue is already damaged? Regards, Dan Thanks for that Dave.
It would be great to get some links to some well known and well documented people in the field. I love the site by the way. If I can get links to articules then I think all coaches will feel more empowered. I will definitely share these.

Dont worry, I love the active warm up at the start. What are your thoughts on not doing strectching at the end of a session using the reason that muscle tissue is already damaged?
Regards,
Dan

]]> By: Dave http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-271 Dave Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:44:36 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-271 Hi Dan, I can understand that as a coach you feel responsible for the well being of athletes and could be blamed for injuries. However, there is no research that indicates static stretching in the warm up will prevent local muscle injury. There is also the decreased neural firing, and negative effects on vertical jump. So static stretching is certainly not the way to go in the warm up. As for stretching after training I would recommend some static stretching to help return muscles to their resting length. There will be a post shortly with some active warm up ideas. Hi Dan,

I can understand that as a coach you feel responsible for the well being of athletes and could be blamed for injuries. However, there is no research that indicates static stretching in the warm up will prevent local muscle injury. There is also the decreased neural firing, and negative effects on vertical jump. So static stretching is certainly not the way to go in the warm up.

As for stretching after training I would recommend some static stretching to help return muscles to their resting length.

There will be a post shortly with some active warm up ideas.

]]> By: Dan http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-244 Dan Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:00:15 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-244 Hi there, I think some of the challenges faced go back to the reason for stretching - prevention of an injury. In my opinion coaches feel that unless there is static stretching done, if a player injures themselves, the coach will be held to blame, because he / she did not do static stretching. I too have been doing active warm up for years, with a ball - aking sure players knew that this was a warm up drill. I had a coach work with me two years ago and she was shocked that I was not doing stretching at the start for 10 minutes or more. She was from a club who's Head Coach has been coaching for over 30 years. That's where her prior knowledge comes from - for sure. Then last year, the S & C coach (who is now on Western Bulldogs staff) said at te end of training he did not want the athletes to do ANY stretching as it damages tissue! So what is the best course of action? What do you guys recommend is up to date warm up for Volleyball and why? Hi there,

I think some of the challenges faced go back to the reason for stretching – prevention of an injury.

In my opinion coaches feel that unless there is static stretching done, if a player injures themselves, the coach will be held to blame, because he / she did not do static stretching.

I too have been doing active warm up for years, with a ball – aking sure players knew that this was a warm up drill.

I had a coach work with me two years ago and she was shocked that I was not doing stretching at the start for 10 minutes or more.

She was from a club who’s Head Coach has been coaching for over 30 years. That’s where her prior knowledge comes from – for sure.

Then last year, the S & C coach (who is now on Western Bulldogs staff) said at te end of training he did not want the athletes to do ANY stretching as it damages tissue!

So what is the best course of action?

What do you guys recommend is up to date warm up for Volleyball and why?

]]> By: Dave http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Dave Mon, 18 Feb 2008 08:24:51 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-105 Thanks for your thoughts Ross. It can be quite a battle to educate people that static stretching before the event can impede performance. In some cases this message is getting through too well and people are turning away from static stretching at any time. It does have many benefits, it just needs to be done at the right time. Thanks for your thoughts Ross. It can be quite a battle to educate people that static stretching before the event can impede performance. In some cases this message is getting through too well and people are turning away from static stretching at any time. It does have many benefits, it just needs to be done at the right time.

]]> By: Ross Sullivan http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Ross Sullivan Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:05:22 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-103 I like the thread of this forum. The only problem is the people who are reading it are most likely going to be the converted. As a PE teacher for the last 28 years the change to convince people that static stretching before 'the event' can impede performance is like running into a brick wall. The philosophy that 'this is how we use to do it in my days', is imprinted. Running coaches courses and clinics you quite often get the same reaction. I have been using active warm-ups for volleyball for a number of years. I also allow the players to do some static stretches but I move players on quickly if I believe that this is becoming the main focus of the players. Whilst many coaches use various mobility exercises as their dynamic warm-ups I prefer to use the ball in their warm-up. Mind you I am always looking at new ideas. Like we all should be. Well done on this site. I like the thread of this forum. The only problem is the people who are reading it are most likely going to be the converted. As a PE teacher for the last 28 years the change to convince people that static stretching before ‘the event’ can impede performance is like running into a brick wall. The philosophy that ‘this is how we use to do it in my days’, is imprinted. Running coaches courses and clinics you quite often get the same reaction.
I have been using active warm-ups for volleyball for a number of years. I also allow the players to do some static stretches but I move players on quickly if I believe that this is becoming the main focus of the players.
Whilst many coaches use various mobility exercises as their dynamic warm-ups I prefer to use the ball in their warm-up. Mind you I am always looking at new ideas. Like we all should be.
Well done on this site.

]]> By: Dave http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Dave Thu, 07 Feb 2008 11:42:51 +0000 http://volleyball-base.com/blog/2008/02/04/static-stretching-in-the-warm-up/#comment-53 VballCoach, There will be some information on active warm ups coming soon. Alexis, I guess people follow convention. "Thats how it was done when I played, so thats how we'll do it now." The information is out there, in some cases it is a matter of coaches seeking out this information, or advice from the relevant people. Hopefully this site can provide some of this information and eventually develop into a good resource for coaches to use. VballCoach,
There will be some information on active warm ups coming soon.

Alexis,
I guess people follow convention. “Thats how it was done when I played, so thats how we’ll do it now.”
The information is out there, in some cases it is a matter of coaches seeking out this information, or advice from the relevant people. Hopefully this site can provide some of this information and eventually develop into a good resource for coaches to use.

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